# General

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## [Welcome to OCL Chat!](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/welcome-to-ocl-chat/7)

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**Author:** [@system](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 9, 2023, 6:06am UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/welcome-to-ocl-chat/7 "2023-02-09T06:06:54Z")

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Welcome to OCL Chat, our discussion platform and a place where you can hang out and talk about OCL with other community members. This site is designed for OCL users, implementers, and contributors to learn from each othe…

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## [About the General category](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/about-the-general-category/3)

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**Author:** [@system](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/system)\
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## [Concept descriptions not saved when importing a source to self-hosted server](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/concept-descriptions-not-saved-when-importing-a-source-to-self-hosted-server/155)

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**Author:** [@jujan](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/jujan)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2026, 8:32pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/concept-descriptions-not-saved-when-importing-a-source-to-self-hosted-server/155 "2026-10-25T20:32:06Z")

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Hi, I have a self-hosted OCL server. When I import a released source version that I exported from the online OCL server, the concepts are created with their names and all the details, but their descriptions are not save…

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## [Why is the first version's hierarchy different from the HEAD's](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/why-is-the-first-versions-hierarchy-different-from-the-heads/144)

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**Author:** [@forest](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/forest)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [April 10, 2025, 5:53am UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/why-is-the-first-versions-hierarchy-different-from-the-heads/144 "2025-04-10T05:53:25Z")

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Why does the newly created version (the 1st one) of my demo source have a hierarchy different from the HEAD version’s although nothing is changed to the content? Hierarchy of the version \[HEAD\] Hierarchy of the vers…

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## [The value of hierarchy\_root\_url couldn't be bulk-imported](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/the-value-of-hierarchy-root-url-couldnt-be-bulk-imported/139)

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**Author:** [@forest](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/forest)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2025, 8:05am UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/the-value-of-hierarchy-root-url-couldnt-be-bulk-imported/139 "2025-04-07T08:05:43Z")

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Source concept hierarchy: Root Food C1 Vegitables C1.1 Greens C2 Fruits The value of hierarchy\_root\_url in the my demo Source couldn’t be bulk-imported using the Bulk Import panel on the OCL Online. I…

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## [Can you pls ehow to creat our own code with a SNOMED CT CODE which is not in the list of CIEL code](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/can-you-pls-ehow-to-creat-our-own-code-with-a-snomed-ct-code-which-is-not-in-the-list-of-ciel-code/143)

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**Author:** [@Chamendi\_Nishshanka](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/Chamendi_Nishshanka)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [April 3, 2025, 11:48am UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/can-you-pls-ehow-to-creat-our-own-code-with-a-snomed-ct-code-which-is-not-in-the-list-of-ciel-code/143 "2025-04-03T11:48:44Z")

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Can you pls explain how to create our own code with a SNOMED CT CODE which is not in the list of CIEL code Ex:autoimmune hepatitis, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, history of gestational hypertension, history of gest…

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## [Error: Cannot login via API directly](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/error-cannot-login-via-api-directly/138)

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**Author:** [@forest](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/forest)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [April 2, 2025, 7:18am UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/error-cannot-login-via-api-directly/138 "2025-04-02T07:18:33Z")

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When trying to Retrieve auth token via API: curl --location 'https://api.openconceptlab.org/users/login/' \\ --header 'Content-Type: application/json' \\ --data '{ "username": "uuuuu", "password": "ppppp" }' I go…

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## [Registration process is disabled because Google CAPTCHA API JS is not available](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/registration-process-is-disabled-because-google-captcha-api-js-is-not-available/133)

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**Author:** [@forest](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/forest)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [March 29, 2025, 11:31am UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/registration-process-is-disabled-because-google-captcha-api-js-is-not-available/133 "2025-03-29T11:31:13Z")

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With oclweb2 docker image: New users will not be able to complete the registration process because Google CAPTCHA API JS is not available here (cn) and the submit button is disabled. Any workaround? Thanks. There are…

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## [WHOATC: Where are the mappings in the downloads?](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/whoatc-where-are-the-mappings-in-the-downloads/137)

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**Author:** [@forest](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/forest)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [March 26, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/whoatc-where-are-the-mappings-in-the-downloads/137 "2025-03-26T12:24:31Z")

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Hello, @jamlung. For the concepts in the source WHOATC: Where are the mappings in the downloads such as json file? And why are there no mappings shown on the tab mappings ? However, the concept details panel shows the…

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## [How to represent a role group](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/how-to-represent-a-role-group/136)

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**Author:** [@forest](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/forest)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [March 26, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/how-to-represent-a-role-group/136 "2025-03-26T23:35:04Z")

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How to represent a role group as those in SNOMED CT? Thanks.

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## [Any definitions of the Collection Types?](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/any-definitions-of-the-collection-types/135)

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**Author:** [@forest](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/forest)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 25, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/any-definitions-of-the-collection-types/135 "2025-03-25T14:02:46Z")

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Is there any definitions of the Collection Types? export const COLLECTION\_TYPES = \[ 'Dictionary', 'Interface Terminology', 'Indicator Registry', 'Value Set', 'Subset', \]; Github Source Thanks

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## [Creating a decimal concept](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/creating-a-decimal-concept/129)

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**Author:** [@psmatsinhe](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/psmatsinhe)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [March 11, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/creating-a-decimal-concept/129 "2025-03-11T13:42:55Z")

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Hey there, I have created a dictionary in OCL but I don’t seem to find a way to create a decimal number. Created a concept and managed to import all in OpenMRS but cant find decimal.

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## [Guidance on importing terminology into self-hosted OCL](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/guidance-on-importing-terminology-into-self-hosted-ocl/118)

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**Author:** [@rathpan](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/rathpan)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 3, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/guidance-on-importing-terminology-into-self-hosted-ocl/118 "2024-10-03T14:39:06Z")

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Hi everyone, I’m currently exploring Open Concept Lab (OCL) as a self-hosted terminology server for my organization, the Thai Health Information Standards Development Center. I’ve successfully deployed both the API and …

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## [Add/update a CIEL concept attribute value](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/add-update-a-ciel-concept-attribute-value/110)

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**Author:** [@amoko](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/amoko)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [August 9, 2024, 7:37am UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/add-update-a-ciel-concept-attribute-value/110 "2024-08-09T07:37:31Z")

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Hey there, We’re using existing CIEL concepts to build our laboratory concept dictionary. We’ve come across some concepts which lack a value range. Is there a process to recommend updates to the CIEL concepts without h…

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## [Software Testing Call on 13 August - eHealth Professionals Knowledge Network](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/software-testing-call-on-13-august-ehealth-professionals-knowledge-network/113)

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**Author:** [@kasey.upchurch](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/kasey.upchurch)\
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**Last updated:** [August 1, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/software-testing-call-on-13-august-ehealth-professionals-knowledge-network/113 "2024-08-01T17:23:22Z")

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Software Testing Tuesday 13 August 2024 9-10 am ET / 1-2 pm UTC / 3-4 pm SAST / 4-5 pm EAT / 9-10 pm PST-Manila The August 13 meeting of the eHealth Professionals Knowledge Network will be a more in-depth look into…

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## [OCL Summer 2024 Fellowship Weekly Updates](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/ocl-summer-2024-fellowship-weekly-updates/103)

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**Author:** [@fuller.juliam](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/fuller.juliam)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 26, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/ocl-summer-2024-fellowship-weekly-updates/103 "2024-07-26T17:52:38Z")

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Each week throughout the fellowship I’ll post an update about what I’ve been working on that week and any questions, lessons learned, or ideas for discussion.

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## [Concept with similar ID but different source](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/concept-with-similar-id-but-different-source/100)

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**Author:** [@maxsemal](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/maxsemal)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/concept-with-similar-id-but-different-source/100 "2024-07-03T14:02:16Z")

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Hi there, When I add two distinct concepts coming from different sources that have the same Numeric OCL ID (but different Ext IDs) and their distinct mappings to a collection, their respective mappings are getting mixed…

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## [Concept IDs and UUIDs](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/concept-ids-and-uuids/96)

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**Author:** [@amoko](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/amoko)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 18, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/concept-ids-and-uuids/96 "2024-06-18T08:39:48Z")

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Is there a unique field that identifies a concept from others across all sources? The id field within a source cannot be changed BUT it’s not unique across all other sources and I’d imagine this helps with flexibility. …

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## [Upcoming Session on Strengthening Quality Assurance - 11 June](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/upcoming-session-on-strengthening-quality-assurance-11-june/94)

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**Author:** [@kasey.upchurch](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/kasey.upchurch)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 5, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/upcoming-session-on-strengthening-quality-assurance-11-june/94 "2024-06-05T16:50:59Z")

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Journey Toward Strengthening Quality Assurance 11 June 2024 9-10 am ET / 1-2 pm UTC / 3-4 pm SAST / 4-5 pm EAT / 9-10 pm PST-Manila The 11 June eHealth Professionals Knowledge Network session will focus on sharing abo…

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## [How to sort concepts by id from OCL API](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/how-to-sort-concepts-by-id-from-ocl-api/92)

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**Author:** [@amoko](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/amoko)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [May 3, 2024, 8:56am UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/how-to-sort-concepts-by-id-from-ocl-api/92 "2024-05-03T08:56:13Z")

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Hey there, I’m looking for a way to get the latest concept ID in the BHGO dictionary. The sortAsc parameter does not order appropriately and it appears to return concepts in random order. When I use this url, https://…

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## [Implementing Kenya National Health Terminology Service - User Management & Feature Enhancements](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/implementing-kenya-national-health-terminology-service-user-management-feature-enhancements/79)

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**Author:** [@k-ngari](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/k-ngari)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [March 29, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/implementing-kenya-national-health-terminology-service-user-management-feature-enhancements/79 "2024-03-29T13:19:13Z")

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In our journey implementing the Kenya National Health Terminology Service (which is an instance of OCL), we identified a few buckets of work that can be a starting point for discussions here. User management (Public/A…

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## [Emerging Community for eHealth / HIS Professionals!](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/emerging-community-for-ehealth-his-professionals/64)

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**Author:** [@kasey.upchurch](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/kasey.upchurch)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 16, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/emerging-community-for-ehealth-his-professionals/64 "2024-01-16T17:46:11Z")

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Exciting announcement! A new community is underway: the eHealth Professionals Knowledge Network is launching as a space for health information system professionals to connect on shared learning materials and knowledge…

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## [OCL Getting Started Materials](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/ocl-getting-started-materials/30)

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**Author:** [@jamlung](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/u/jamlung)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [March 16, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://chat.openconceptlab.org/t/ocl-getting-started-materials/30 "2023-03-16T18:01:05Z")

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Here is our list of documentation, slides, videos, etc. that can help you to get to know OCL better and learn how you can adopt the tools, participant in the community, and more! This will be a living list that is update…
